patching...
Breaking: Lt. Gov. Tim Murray to Resign »
Welcome back, Patch Blogger!
Local Voices

A Matter of Assembly

As someone who dares to question politically charged topics, I learned two key elements--do the research and weigh all sides of the argument. Even most well intended writers don't have access to all the information because it's simply unavailable. That is why I believe it's important the public comment on every article of concern. Much of this I’ve framed from articles and documents found on the web. If you Google “Assembly Square Smart Growth”, “Back Story to Assembly”, you will find information of the heavily debated parcel of land which borders Charlestown and Medford. 

“The truth lies somewhere in the middle of two-sides”

Assembly Square Mall of 1980 was a shopping center convenient for working class residents of Somerville due to its proximity to neighborhoods. It became a gathering place for young families, with an adjacent cinema. Residents were excited about its development because it meant they didn't have to venture off to shopping malls within the enclaves of Rt.95 suburbia.

It would soon be deemed an "urban wasteland", by critics who looked upon it with scorn. The largest parcel of land in the entire region, yet underdeveloped and underappreciated for its potential to be something greater. If developed properly, it would boast pride for its historically well-known scrappy working class town, conservative talk radio would use as an unwelcomed reminder.

As predicted, by 2014 we will witness its transformation into a modern day "urban village". A vision which provides a renewed sense of hope that it will become what the former project failed to do. A place envied by it's neighbors, but more importantly, it will be a shopping extravaganza, one that is appreciated by all residents within the community and beyond city limits.

For anyone to believe this story was not laced with deep rooted class-based tensions is to be naïve. Testimonials by local loyalists who have lived here among generations of families dating back to the early 1900’s will tell you how they feel about the no-end-in-site-progressive-encroachment. As a native who has seen and felt changes which impacted our old neighborhoods, although trying to remain positive, I continue to worry as the song goes..."My City Was Gone", that one day, too—My city would vanish only to be replaced by the narrow vision and personal dream of outsiders far removed from it's working class idenity.  Two stories of Akron and Somerville may not be identical, but the outcome is the same and shared by local residents—there before us is a great sense of loss and whether good or bad, it was that place we called home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA56J8zlAdo

Most reasonable people understand that change is inevitable. It can be as slow and steady as the ocean tide or quick and unexpected as a snow storm in the month of May.

It’s a complicated story with peaks of hope and valleys of despair— hard-headed Chiefs suffering from deeply flawed egos unwilling to compromise coupled with lack of well-intended Indians focused on reasonable expectations hoping to achieve balance.

Viewing it's Geographic proximity—Assembly’s location is nestled between four modest shopping centers:  Meadow Glen, two polarized centers: one old--one new at Wellington, and a big box plaza viewed behind said parcel in Medford which accommodates another Home Depot, Costco and Best Buy, other stores and restaurants. Currently, two train stations lie between, later one added at Assembly:  Orange Line MBTA stations –Sullivan (Assembly) Wellington with a commuter rail running parallel. There are also several or more long-term occupants who have endured throughout and have dug in their heels. However, eminent domain could change all that once construction is underway.

Connecting them all is one of the most heavily traveled roadways, Rt. 16, which spans from Rt. 2 Alewife in Cambridge to I 93 Medford. If given a choice, this road would be my last option of travel. Some of the drivers are lunatics. I’d rather take my chances hang-gliding off a skyscraper in downtown Boston at midnight. The antiquated roadway system is ineffective and does not meet today's great demand of daily motorists and large industrial size vehicles. What can I say—I DETEST THIS ROAD.

As you enter this stretch of roadway from West Somerville, you will see Meadow Glen Mall on your left, which locals refer to as “Ghetto Glen”. It sort of reminds me of what Assembly ended up becoming until it finally closed its doors for good.  However, with the exception of Kmart, which was given a life time sentencing for good behavior for reasons undisclosed. It is my belief that granting Kmart a 99 year lease created decade long delays which stood in the way of mixed use progress.

If one side was unwilling to compromise, some impartial body should have been appointed to make decisions. Concerns over political graveyards is what created stalling. Not every politician can be hailed a hero. Those who are willing to take needed risks, can handle defeat with grace in the face of turmoil, should be respected and regarded as a person of courage, strength and endurance.

We can’t all be winners all of the time—better to take a few losses as gained experience. It should be a win for the majority, not the minority. They are only good as the constituency who believe in them and if they lack their full support, eventually all is lost. We saw this with DKG, who made a few political enemies which compromised her professional reputation and position as mayor.

As we watched our real estate taxes triple since 1998, our greatest concern was about the hornet’s nest at Assembly Square which cost millions in lost revenue. How much was foresaken due to ongoing delays and ego bruising, unimportant deliberations over the large parcel of underdeveloped land? It appears there were a few self-serving stakeholders with poor vision of what really mattered. Their focus should have been on what was important for the residents of our city.

Going forward, amendments passed by our newly elected Mayor Joe Curtatone in 2004, made certain that lawsuits would not delay projects and that not one single group would be able to make decisions. Over the years, I have felt that our new mayor was leading our city into a positive direction, benefiting all. He made some good decisions, those which would ensure continuity, strengthen goals while providing fairness among those vested. Along with much needed guidance which would quickly defuse any attempts of taking control of the project or preventing steady progress—which we saw too much of during the previous administration.

Some observers would compare Assembly Row to construction sites in nearby towns where similar problems erupted— such as waterfront proposals being stalled due to local opposition and overly-dense, newly constructed sites halted by building and zoning code restrictions. Two examples: Beacon Hill and Back Bay, were envisioned for Assembly Row. However, their roadway access is not the same--East Somerville and Assembly Row are separated by a heavily traveled secondary roadway which serves as a conduit to I 93 above, too dangerous to travel by foot.

In my opinion, speculations made of upper income bracket holders increasing the city’s tax base is unsubstantiated hearsay. Those who have the privilege, opportunity and connections to help manage their money are generally looking out for themselves, not making donations to the city in which they reside. Some are here  temporarily and only choose to remain if there is a long-term stake involved in their investment. As far as home/condo ownership goes—I would wager that an unbiased, thoroughly researched survey would reveal that many would flip their home in a heartbeat if it meant they would be able to make a substantial profit.

Many locals would not do the same because there are distinct differences in what they value most and money is not at the top of their list.

Those who are independently wealthy do not have to rely on location, as working class families. We are rooted here from the day we are born. The only reasons which drive us out are drastic changes which impede on our quality of life such as takeovers, a sense of abandonment by those we trusted and maybe personal factors, such as divorce or retirement. For some to misconstrue our real intentions of resentment towards gentrification is typical of those who suffer from entitlement, the same people who never accept responsibility for their actions or behavior.

I find it inconceivable to envision the enormity of traffic another overly developed parcel of land would create. Assembly is by far the largest swath of land of them all. In my opinion, there is already too much going on in this region for there not to be some unforeseeable consequences.

If there must be development—where is the plan to revise and upgrade a system of roadway to manage this great endeavor? And who will pay for it?

Three stories that came out of the Assembly debacle I view as ridiculous—

First:  Granting Kmart a 99 year lease—no one business or person should have exclusive rights to mixed use property. It should be impartial and fair to everyone involved in leasing space.

Second:  A lawsuit filed by a non-abutting, neighboring resident against the city planning board. The claim was that the big box development would depreciate her home value, impose a commuting hardship and negatively impact her quality of life. When offered $2 million, she refused, calling it a bribe.

Third:  The proposed concept to build an apple orchard within the plan for open space. Open space is one thing—but an apple orchard?

The key to the success of this project will be based on improvements to the roadway and MBTA. If there is a willingness by those involved in the decision making to improve on the safety, ease and convenience by people traveling within this region, I believe it can work.

The site at Assembly has been one of the greatest challenges our city has had to face. I think the mayor's committment and willingness to make this an inclusive center for all is admirable, but not so sure others are in line with his idealistic, long term goals.

History and vision of the project:

http://www.assemblyrow.com/vision/history/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_Square_Marketplace

Recent Globe article "Assembly Square Development is taking shape", which provides details of what is being built at the site:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/regionals/north/2012/12/27/assembly-square-development-taking-shape/3JJ7eIrogFMCXpNj7wApCL/story.html

AHM

6:55 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

I see you put a lot of time and effort into this and well done. For me it was the Assembly Square project and Joe Curatone that made my decision that my 60 plus years in Somerville will come to an end. Sorta like getting the pink slip. Since most everyone I Know like myself is trying to survive in the under $30,000 pay scale Joe has headed the city projects to higher income level people. I got the hint loud and clear. It's just keeps getting worse here. I know you want to hang in here but I have lost the will and the money to stay here. I just hope I can hang in long enough for my parents lives. For many years we had a great thing here. A good mix of business and residential. Once the city became antibusiness it really went downhill. I guess a good thing can't last forever.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

7:31 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

AHM,

This story has bothered me for some time. I hope you will be able to continue to stay in Somerville. I moved my mom into our apartment so I could take care of her since she was unable to live alone in her own apartment. The only wish she had was to stay in her home. She was able to remain with us at the house until her health failed and then she was at an assisted living care facility. She died last summer at the age of 84 and I'm just happy she got to stay at the house for as long as possible.

It will be interesting to see how this unfolds as the months progress.

Reply

AHM

8:21 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

You are just more stubborn about staying here and much more forgiving than I am. His state of the city address really says we are no longer welcome here. What we need is a mayor that works for all of us, not a select few. A majority of the people I deal with in Somerville are on the lower income are really disgusted with this mayor, the few I deal with in the higher income think he is great. Anyway, I know what you mean about your mother, I don't want to have any regrets about mine. Mother is 88 father is soon to be 90. Does not appear either one is going any where soon. Both are busy people making things for charity. My father made toys for toys for tots even though he can barely walk now. Mom made things for churches that they are not even members of just to help. Older people in the neighborhood stop by and sit on the front stairs and rest on their way to the stores. You should be happy, I would not like to live with the guilt of not doing my best for them. Least we can do for them putting up with us as children.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

8:42 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

AHM,

I admit, I am too stubborn to leave--what can I say? It's in my nature to be bullheaded, part of this behavior is a Somerville trait. We are also a bit too outspoken and enjoy our individuality from the rest who pretend they are without flaws. There is just something different about a Somerville native and you can always spot someone from your town just by their mannerisms.

Forgiving, not really. I've learned that you can't burn too many bridges in your lifetime, otherwise you will find yourself isolated. You can disagree and still engage in the process. I know that in any high position, there are difficult choices to be made. I don't like that the city doing so much development, but when I look at Cambridge, I understand that the mayor does not want Somerville to be left behind in the world of technology and progress. I'd like to see more affordable housing and more police presence in areas of our city that need it.

Last night's manhunt proved that those issues still exist. I would like to know what created the gunfire in East Somerville, leading to a fleet of police cruisers and helicopter in my neighborhood for a three hour search. A similar incident of gunfire happened on Marshall Street just recently and 2 years ago, during the summer there was a very serious injury--gang related. Why can't these situations be stopped? No one will want to move to these neighborhoods if this continues.

Reply

AHM

6:24 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

At each end of my street someone has been murdered. One of my vehicles stolen twice. One was broken into 3 times in an attempt to steal it. A cinderblock thrown through the back window of my wife's car. Twice my house was set on fire. Decorations out front set on fire. 8 times hit by school buses going down my street in which I didn't get anywhere with them. Flat tires on numerous occasions. These things also happened to my neighbors so it was not a personal thing. My son came to visit and his car was stolen. I did call the police on each occasion but I should not have bothered. I do have to say my aldermen at least returned my calls and did try to help but got nowhere on some of the issues. I wrote to the police chief for help and worked my way up to the mayor who just sent me back to the police where I started from. These things are just for this house, not others I owned. I didn't want to buy this one as we wanted at the time to buy in Melrose but ended up with this because of my parents situation. I have lived in Magoun Square, Somerville Ave., East Somerville, Teele Square and now WInter Hill. Winter Hill being the worst.

Reply

Sand Man

6:53 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Looking at some of the Avalon Assembly Row residences being offered, they sure don't look within reach of the average Somerville resident, what with "Concierge Service," et al...

In this sense- and in some others--the Mayor's claim that Assembly Square will be a great opportunity for all residents (or words to that effect) is just so much malarkey....

Reply
Comment_arrow

AHM

8:11 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

I am getting this slight hint that maybe I am way below average. I will make a wild guess here that it is a great opportunity for those making $100,000.00 or better.

SomervilleGirl

8:55 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

AHM,

Where do I begin? Murder, Larceny, Arson, B&E's--well, it looks like the place hasn't changed much over the years. I recall a murder of a 17 yr. old girl. They never did catch the killer.

I was shocked to read all of what you have been through. This is outrageous, no wonder you want out and who could blame you. Have you reach out to Elder Services for assistance? I know when it comes to the elderly, there are laws which protect their well being and safety. You should reach out to our local senator and representatives office for guidance. They will put pressure on authorities to take care of this crap.

Also, there is a police officer assigned to every neighborhood throughout the city. Find out who they are and tell them to provide more surveillance of your street and block. You must be persistent as hell, don't let up. When you become more of an annoyance than the crook, you win. They are lucky I have a long way to go before retirement because I would be more involved and try to advocate for those who can't do it themselves. There is no reason why we should have to live in fear.
We pay taxes for these services and have every right to demand that something be done about the ongoing escalating crime in our city.

I've dealt with noisey neighbors & their late night booze parties. I called the police & city hall more than a few times last summer, including my alderman. I will do the same next summer if they persist.

Reply
Comment_arrow

AHM

12:45 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

A picture of my house was in the paper of the place where the Cremins girl was killed. That same night was when we found stuff on the side of our house that had been set on fire. The aldermen had said on a few occasions they would have the neighborhood policeman talk to me. That was the end of that. Not bad here for noise, the people on one side of my maybe 3 times a year they are outside and noisy most of the night. But they are so nice I just let it go. If I don't home fast enough they come over and shovel my sidewalk. She makes homemade bread and brings some over. I do the same when I get out there before they do or when I bake I make them some. These are the kind of people this city was full of.

SomervilleGirl

9:07 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

I'm sorry for all you have gone through. It must be especially difficult for your parents. The elderly have a tough time coping with their own issues and they should not have to deal with the added stress these incidents cause them.

I forgot to mention earlier that I think it's a wonderful your parents have contributed their talents to help provide gifts to children and within the church organization. Growing up, my family believed in giving back to the community as well. My parents were members of St. Anthony's Church on Somerville Avenue. Dad would pay their heating bill during the winter months, this was back in the 60's when he was a member of the Dante Club. In those days, people supported one another and the community was strong, not as it is now with so many who are only interested in themselves. People think they are contributing to our city in so many ways as our parents and grandparents, not true. They only live here because their jobs are nearby and they can ride the "T", to work. It's much more convenient and cost effective than living in a big house in Sudbury/Newton/Wellesley. They can keep the car in the garage and have everything at their disposal. That's what Assembly is about, but I'm not so sure they can make it just for people in the upper income bracket. If there is federal money being used for housing, they will have to build affordable rental units/condos as well. I heard this from a state rep years ago, of course it could have changed.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

9:37 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Due to the size of the project it will likely follow (at minimum) the 40b limits. The bigger conversation, which is being discussed here is that of the a change in population in Somerville is really the biggest piece here.

The idea that Somerville is becoming a microcosm of what we see in the US at large ie a transition from a broad middle class with poor and rich at each end to one of a reduced middle class and disproportionate broadening of the extremes. In Somerville the balance is weighing towards the wealthier people because of where Somerville is located, the services offered by the city and state, and the increasingly engaging culture of arts, hipster, local, organic, entertainment, foodie and craft services.

This influx of people is driving demand for more of the same type of services. Pricier restaurants, bars, butchers, bakeries, markets and other shops are displacing old businesses which in-turn increases the desirability of Somerville to similar people... This is the "natural" market course for the city.. an upward arc towards a grey/white/greener collar community. The result of this will be a reduction of shops and services geared to lower income persons. The amount of housing available will likely grow as regulation on new developments require affordable units.

Comment_arrow

AHM

12:34 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Growing up St Anthony's was in my back yard. We didn't need much street cleaning back then as people cleaned in front of their houses and we had the barrel on wheels guy out there keeping it neat. People did not seem to litter so much back then. I know I wouldn't dare to or my father would kill me. I haven't heard of any pricing yet at Assembly.

My father also built many items from St Joseph's from the pews when they remodeled many years ago. He made vanities with a mirro and seat which they auctioned off and from the little pieces left over he made doll swings. He was not catholic but he never cared about that, he did stuff for other churches also. He just figures if they were doing good he was happy helping. I liked being here and being around nice people you could associate with. We would have a cookout back then and end up with most of the neighbors showing up and have enough food to feed an army. It's nice, not cold like today. Assembly will never be a neighborhood

SomervilleGirl

9:14 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Sand Man,

Someone mentioned other towns are beginning to put up wind turbines on top of high buildings. Hey, there's one way to keep out those I 93 emissions.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

9:21 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

AHM,

From what the priest had shared, the neighborhood has changed considerably since the elders who frequented the parish had passed on. Many of the children sold their homes but regretted it later when they were priced out of the city and could not afford to return. This is my greatest issue I have w/ fast moving changes we experienced in 02'. The housing bubble created a gluttony of real estate improvements pushed by the realtors/developers. They were forcing homeowners to renovate their apartments on a false claim that their homes would be of greater value and that no one would live in their apartments unless they installed gourmet kitchens, hardwood floors, new decks, etc. It was all one BIG LIE just so they could get their commissions, take their homes in foreclosures. The only losers in this shady game were the homeowners. Everyone else made money--fraudulent lenders, appraisers, realtors & towns (RE taxes) when you renovate, the assessor pounds down the door every time you pull a permit. They don't tell you your taxes will triple after the work is done. The tenants get what they want, but it's never good enough. When you complain, they tell you to sell & make it condos. Again, winners take all, even the lawyers. What was done to the innocent homeowners is an absolute disgrace. I've been to the statehouse to provide testimony of all I've been through during this housing scam. Luckily, our AG has sued those dirtbags who created this mess. They should be JAILED.

Reply
Comment_arrow

AHM

6:58 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

It's all about the money. I work in the industry, I know. I have had to stop working for some because because of their tatics. I hated to lose the money but could not stand working that way. I saw the shortcuts and refused to be part of it. Guess that's why I will never be wealthy. Then watch them being praised for their contribution to the community. I worked for company making repairs on new homes before they were sold. They didn't last long enough for them to be sold, never mind when people start living in them. I watched hardwood flooring being brought into the house and installed the same day. Floor sanders working and painters at the same time. And so on. Granite counters are the big sell but that is now starting to change. ONe of the worse counters to have if you like to cook. It is very pourous. You have to maintain and clean and seal it 1 to 3 times a years depending on the usage. It is very unsanitary, but it sells the condo or house. Most are not aware that you have to take care of it. But you get more money if you have them. It's crazy. Real estate people are ranked like used car salesmen, maybe worse.

SomervilleGirl

9:35 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

I hope there is affordable housing at Assembly. The working class of our city have every right to remain here. This is the place in which they were born and raised. We all worked very hard to keep our properties, as did our parents and grandparents. There was no trust fund helping us buy our condo--like the way some have acquired their investments. Don't bother to ask how they got it, they won't tell you. They will let you think they paid for it from hard work. And when they talk about local nepotism and cronyism, they should be honest and tell you how they got into college, how they got their first job. It was mom and dad who help every step of the way.

None of it came easy for many of our working class families. Our struggle is what makes us survivors. We know the meaning of true friendship and loyalty.

My mother was a custodian that paid her close to nothing when she retired. The majority of people moving into our city don't care about the working class locals, they are only concerned about themselves.

They will never drive me out of my neighborhood and I am glad my street is filled with 80% locals who have been here for at least 5 decades or more. Their children know how valuable their properties are and I hope most will move back and claim their homes they grew up in. Maybe they will choose to raise their families here.

Reply

AHM

7:08 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

I haven't seen anything on the pricing in Assembly yet and if there is affordable or not. I don't know the regs on that. I just saw something but can't recall where an I am unsure if I remember it right but I think we have 14,000 affordable units here in Somerville. Hopefully someone will correct this if I am wrong. Just looking at it I know I would not want to live there. I like neighborhood living much more or out in the boondocks.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

8:27 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

AHM,

Affordable housing has been stigmatized-- negative propaganda mainly comes from the people who only want condo living, investors, realtors and developers. They tell us that no one wants to live next door to affordable housing because it makes their property depreciate in value. What a joke. Home values are a fairy-tale, a number that is always liquid--someone else sets the tone. The Belmont Planning Board (Mitt's son) influenced the entire town against bringing in a hospice care center with same remarks, "It will lower our home values". Residents didn't want sounds of ambulances or see the dark hearse passing by their well manicured lawns and gazebos. This story illuminates their prejudices and bigotry--now they hate the elderly, too. They honestly believe that if you live in a trophy home, have a few million, send your children to the most expensive schools--you are better than the rest. Many are falling down drunken cheaters, tax evaders who raise spoiled, dysfunctional kids who never amount to anything but expect everyone owes them something. Great life! After all the Corporate Welfare that was handed out for bailouts, we all learn that white-collar criminals are no different from the two-bit hustlers living on the streets. Actually, they are different because there is never any accountability for those who make big donations.
I'm glad my parents raised me to be a person who is NOT without compassion and NOT completely self-absorbed as these worthless people.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

10:00 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

SomervilleGirl, I appreciate your positioning that people have been told to think that areas dense with affordable housing are less desirable than those without, and sure that is true, but the value of location is highly subjective. I think if you were to look at a map of somerville (or most cities for that matter) you will find the lowest property values in areas with lots of affordable housing or public housing projects. This may be based on opinion, but value is for the most part based on opinion.

Where I think a distinction needs to be drawn is that affordable housing of today is not the monolithic housing projects of the 60's (except in union sq where they are trying to bring that back into vogue) but rather low density, spread out "affordable opportunities" that are created in almost all of the new multi-unit developments we see in somerville (like maxwells green @ 15% affordable units).

I don't think many of the people looking to live at maxwells green are dissuaded from doing so by 15% affordable units in the complex, but I think they would think twice before moving into neighborhoods across the street from one of the housing projects in the city.

SomervilleGirl

9:17 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

AHM,

I was told there must be a parcel of affordable housing-- there are funds slotted for the project. But we know how they work zoning reg's, as in Elm St. Last I heard, they were changing the zoning to business from residential which will lower the home values of that road (by the Kennedy School, just outside of Porter Square). But it's a working class neighborhood so who cares.

Interesting comment by mayor in the globe last week, on Assembly, making it clear he does not want a casino in the area, but he does favor a soccer field by Kraft. I agree, a soccer field is a great idea because it would bring in more revenue and allow people to enjoy this sport. The developer remarked he didn't want it. Can you guess why?

They are attempting to keep this exclusive, but I don't think it will work if they do. People will have even more resentment because they will then realize it was all a crock. If they want it to be just for that certain classless bunch--they should then call it a gated community. Put up a bared wire fence and keep them contained. Maybe we will all be able to then rest easy.

Check out the video. It's all there--this is what we have to deal with now. Let's be thankful he's not living in our town.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09/08/romneys-rail-against-a-hospice-in-the-neighborhood-where-they-forced-a-mormon-temple-through-video/

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/09/04/belmont-fatal-dose-irony/sJLPvOLfPejGi6mSAi9ofN/story.html

Reply

SomervilleGirl

9:41 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

AHM,

You might find these links helpful: The first one has some details about income requirements of affordable housing. The second is the Affordable Housing Trust Fund.

http://www.investinsomerville.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Election-Day-FAQ.pdf

http://www.somervillema.gov/departments/affordable-housing-trust-fund

I was on the fence about Question 4- down to the last minute when ink hit the paper. I don't like that my taxes will increase, but if it's going to help locals afford to stay here, I will gladly pay more. 10% is not much is it? I just hope it does not go to things that will only benefit the chosen few. That is not what we have been told. They stressed Affordable Housing in their speeches. One campaign manager was relentless and a complete annoyance about the whole thing. I wonder if she's hoping for a permanent job one day. Nothing surprises me anymore. How else would they garnish the working local vote?

"The base requirement is that 10% of CPA funds go to each of the following areas: Open Space; Affordable Housing; and Historic Preservation. The remaining 70% of the funds can be spent or reserved for future projects in any of these 3 areas, or for funding outdoor recreation projects. CPA funds may never be directed to the general city fund; they may only be spent on the CPA core areas of open space, historic preservation, community housing, and outdoor recreation".

http://www.investinsomerville.com/how-the-cpa-works/

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

10:04 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

This was an interesting concept but the city was asked to vote without a commitment from city leadership on allocation. That is why I could not in good conscience vote for it, I am tired of taxes with ambiguous targeting. Give me a line item tax that is targeted towards building a school, improving roads, and I will vote yes on it. Say we will spend at least 10% on the things you care about and then depending on whim we will allocate the remaining 70% and you will get a firm no.

SomervilleGirl

10:37 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Matt,

Would you care to elaborate on this comment (referring to your last entry): "I voted against the tax not because there was no commitment from city leadership around how they would spend the money. I would gladly vote yes pay the tax if it were dedicated to parks and recreation or if the city had said they will direct 80% of money to parks and rec. but I had no assurance - "now the city may direct 80% to so-called affordable housing".

So what does 80% of so called housing mean, exactly, in your terms?

Having lived here since 2004, does not make you an expert of the history of this town, nor does it make me an expert in city planning, even though I was born here in the 60's and family has been here since 1930. I state the longevity of residency only to make a point--real estate sharks eroded the culture of our town, forcing working families to move out of the way for the bulldozer. Sharks of the ocean are eating machines, gobbling everything in site and that's what is becoming of our town. The natives of yester-year got involved in their wards because they wanted to benefit the overall community. They were not self-seeking opportunists we see today. Why did they enforce a by-law which penalizes a seller if he flips his investment (home/condo) within a three year period? It's because Somerville has become simply an quick sale investment, nothing more. After the new development is done, it will be the same

Reply

SomervilleGirl

10:48 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

A democracy, as you have stated in your previous comments--at least to me, should mean that everyone gets a say in the planning of our city--ALL RESIDENTS, not just the chosen few. That is not what we see today--it's just like the Romney's of Belmont. Once they move in, they get to dictate how and what they want for the town. And if you watched that video I posted, after his pompous idiot son gave that speech, everyone in the entire room cheered him on. The planning board shriveled and said, "oh, yes it's a great idea to build more residential homes in that development", even though it was clear he had no intention of buying it--just didn't want to have a hospice care center (as compared to affordable housing) can you imagine the horror! The purest of pure people of Belmont having to be subjected to a hospice center on Belmont Hill--like no one ever dies in Belmont or must be faced with growing old and getting dementia. This ugly scene sent shock waves through the region, especially those of us who have had to travel to Needham and elsewhere along the Rt.95 belt, "hospice lane", to visit our loved ones. My mother died in June under hospice care and this story was really upsetting to me. Hospice care is one of the best healthcare services we have in this state. It helps the elderly in their last years of life as well as for family members to cope. The people who would say that it "devalues their homes" are the same people I say are devalued morally and spiritually. MONSTERS.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

11:05 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

There is a big difference between hospice and a housing project. In anycase I work in healthcare and am hugely in favor of hospice. Just as you said, it is a democracy and it is up to each person to participate in government and drive the course of it towards what they believe is best.

In the case of Belmont, i dont know all the specifics of it, but, it appears that he had a loud voice, people rallied around him and the city did what the people wanted - not what they wanted... or am i missing something?

Matt C

10:57 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

In the statement you are referring to I am saying I would not vote for a tax increase where a minimum of 10% and a maximum of 80% goto adding more affordable housing in the city. If they had said what the proportions would be I would consider it, but until that point I would not.

I think there is are two approaches to affordable housing, one where you build a tenement of public housing and the other where you have mixed income housing at some mandated ratio applied to housing development over so many units. I believe and if you look at the reality of it, tenement style public housing is a blight on a neighborhood and do not support it. If you look though all my comments on this topic I am pretty consistent in that.

I am not an expert on the history of this city though I have a lot of family that have lived here since before you were born and have had a lot of exposure to it. I do however have a vested interest in the future of the city, and quite frankly the city is a cleaner, safer, more inclusive city than it was 30 years ago. I want to see the trend continue, I want more small shops, restaurants and businesses to open here, I want my property value to increase and i want my neighbors to invest in their homes like i have (most of them have as well).

Reply

SomervilleGirl

11:03 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Notice his comment about "the other bidder couldn't come up with the financing", is so typical of this lot. I wouldn't be surprised if he was once his best friend in college. Keep twisting the knife, Tag, only makes you look better. Instead of a Mormon Church, they should have erected a GOLDEN COW instead.

The biggest problem I see here with respect to affordable housing--

The drug dealers and lack of police presence. There are also other issues ignored that are much wider and systemic--those on public assistance, or mental and physical handicaps. These problems are never addressed or handled in a way that helps people to live well on their own.

If you take a sociology class, you will learn that the majority of people who resort to drugs and alcohol do so to cover up an underlying medical disorder, usually depression or something more difficult to treat.

Lack of opportunities to a good education, a sustainable job. If they conducted an experiment (ever see Trading Places w/Eddie Murphy) of taking a low income person, put them into a healthier living situation, give them all the things the wealthy person once had--what are the chances that person would become something much greater and even surpass the one of privilege?

Good Will Hunting is one of my favorite movies which also sends the same message.
Another favorite is The Last Hurrah (based on the life of James Michael Curley). JMC was someone my family held in high regard--a true man of the people.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

11:13 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

the issues you are talking about show up far less often when you do mixed income rather than low income housing. One reason is kids growing up without being surrounded by the kind of hopeless, entrenched poverty you see in housing projects are less likely to fall into that cycle.

Being the son of an immigrant I tend to not think that it is my job to deliver all of the things needed to someone for them to have success rather it is up to them to do it on their own, but I accept that we as a society need to help to provide opportunity and assist with access. It is a careful balance needed to ensure that we do not perpetuate a culture of dependency.

SomervilleGirl

11:19 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

That being said, Matt C--

Who would you select to enter an "Affordable Housing" luxury apartment complex?
I get that the "projects" are not exactly an appealing alternative, not everyone who lives there are home waiting for their court appearance.

Some of them are working families who are struggling to get by and cannot afford to live anywhere else. This is the sad part because due to economics, they are forced to live among criminals.

When I heard about a police officer who was shot in the chest two years ago, I became concerned about the out-of-control crime wave that had entered our city. There is probably a lot more that we will never know about because--"Assembly Row" will solve all those problems. Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I think everyone's got a long wait. The nice locals who were fed up moved out without any problems. I doubt you will have the same response to others and you know, a part of me is very content about that.

Everyone should have a right to live in this and all cities and towns regardless of income, race, religion, handicap or age. But we all know that is not the case.

I'm here to set the record straight and tired of those who continually speak out of both sides of their mouth. We are on to their deception and I'm not talking about the politicians, I'm talking about those who have moved in over the last decade.

Locals know who they can trust, they trust other locals who share the same view.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

11:41 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Matt C.,

The reality is--no one will buy into the idea of "mixed" income housing. May be used as one of the best marketing strategies, but people want to know who their neighbors are, especially since moving in general is costly enough.

You want people to invest in their properties--well, maybe if the taxes were lowered, people could then put money into their homes for improvement. This city has become a real estate bonanza for those who are lucky enough to enjoy their larger salaries--all of our taxes have increased, water as well as other services.

I believe the real estate tax should be based on income only, not the so called value of the property which is many times unrealistic. When the mortgage assessors falsify values over $900k for a $500k home/condo, $900k is not the selling price. When the housing tsunami crashed on over 50 million homeowners across this nation, their values plummeted, but the real estate tax and home insurance did not decrease. Each individual case should be evaluated fairly. If anyone believes they will be reducing our taxes after Assembly is built--they are smoking dope. Never will it happen--if anything changes, it will go up because the trend is to keep pushing out the little guy until the takeover is complete. We see two examples of this--Charlestown & Southie. Jobs will be created, but not one's you will be expecting. Wall Street is to blame for much of this because their chosen few hold all the reigns now.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

12:30 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I disagree with the idea that no one will buy into mixed income, it is quite common all across Boston, Cambridge and Somerville.

http://www.bostonredevelopmentauthority.org/affordhousing/ahopps.asp

Comment_arrow

Matt C

12:38 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Help me understand how a income based realestate tax could work... I cannot make much sense of it, are you proposing a city income tax like nyc? Maybe you have had a bad experience with the way taxes are assessed, but they seem to be pretty accurate... for me at least. The city assessed value was not far off from what a private assessment came in at (i recently re-financed my mortgage).

Matt C

11:46 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Its a lottery program to get into one of the apartments.I don't think assembly route will solve many problems but it will increase our tax base and bring new jobs to the area.

I don't think I speak out of both sides of my mouth, i am consistent in saying I think everyone has a right to live where they can afford, I'd love to live in a mansion and drive an Italian sports car, but I can't afford it so I live within my means.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

12:36 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Matt C,

My comments are based on experience. Belmont was also concerned with "increasing their tax base", but they are more interested in creating lucrative jobs for their friends and paying their debts on an over-sized clubhouse that put them in the hole. We see this trend in the private sector as well--it's only those at the top getting richer. Deals are made, jobs are granted, end of story. Before the cement is dry, the jobs will be filled.

Are you referring to retail and restaurants at Assembly, those jobs? I hope not. Sustainable jobs are those with full-time work and benefits, hard to come by nowadays. Lab jobs are for scientists, not working class.

Of course, it can't be so obvious that anyone would be called on it, so there will be token jobs granted to a few unknowns. It happens in all towns across America--just the way it is, very few are granted employment based on experience and merit. Private sector makes Probation Dept. look like saints.

"A right to live where they can afford", is not a democracy. I wouldn't want to live among the rich even if the house was free! People should not be displaced because a certain group move in and decide they want to change everything in the area. How would Belmont react?

Millionaires continue to flock to the East Coast, mostly ocean view estates. There is a trend to live here. Unemployment in this country is much higher than reported. There are many who don't get counted who have dropped off the radar.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

12:51 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Democracy is about self determination of electing government, it has nothing to do with where you live nor should it. Our democracy has set up a system where you cannot be excluded from participating in a market. e.g. it is not legal to prevent someone from buying a home because they are of a particular race, gender, religion, etc. and eventually sexuality.

What would you want done in assembly sq.? You seem to me looking for a factory to open up and provide thousands of jobs paying 50k/yr well, sorry to break it to you - thats not going to happen.
What do you want done in somerville? some sort or rent control or price control on property? We already do that with a portion of housing stock through affordable housing and it artificially raises the cost for the rest of us.

What are the solutions you want to see?

SomervilleGirl

12:41 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Matt C--

Income based real estate tax--

$50k earner pays less than someone earning $100k

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

12:56 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

thats called an income tax

SomervilleGirl

12:49 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Matt C,

What exactly is your point for posting the link?

East Boston, Hyde Park, Roxbury, Southie, Allston-Brighton.

Are you attempting to compare these towns to Somerville?

Maybe you could advise the newcomers to move to these areas, what would they say?

I'm not sure what it is you want me to be reading--is there an article that has testimonials of people who live there that say it's the best thing ever?
If you can find a Boston Globe story about the positive reactions by mixed income tenants living together and sitting around the campfire holding hands and singing kumbaya, feel free to post!

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

1:02 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

It is not a comparison, it is an example of the program and how they work, which is quite well.

If you meet the criteria to participate and do not do it, quite frankly you are being foolish. Most people would love to live in an apartment that usually cost 3k/m for $800, maybe you would not, but i think you would be the outlier

You don't see articles in the globe because it is a non issue, Anyone with half a mind when buying or renting a home looks at the organization behind it. They know that there are affordable housing units in their building when they move there. In anycase, when was the last time you saw an article about there not being violence in a condo complex? People being civil to their neighbors is what it is supposed to be and there for rarely newsworthy

SomervilleGirl

12:56 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

In the meantime, check out the last two comments on this article about The Belmont Hospice breakdown by Romney's who are obviously now in control of this town--some of the residents certainly have my sympathy....here's what happens when you allow the rich to move into your hometown--it's all about real estate ventures, just like it's happening here--

http://belmont.patch.com/articles/selectmen-cripples-hospice-project

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

1:06 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

"here's what happens when you allow the rich to move into your hometown"
That one is almost as good as
"here's what happens when you subsidize the poor and even more move into your hometown"

Same sentiment, different outcomes, equally offensive.

SomervilleGirl

1:13 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Solutions:

Better schools so that our children have same opportunities as those living in Belmont/Newton/Wellesley. Pay teachers what they deserve, hire only the ones who want to teach and good at their jobs. Keep administrators on a short leash. Learning is more important than pushing kids into higher grades when they have not acquired the skills. Bilingual children should not be held back due to their struggles of learning. Affordable housing for low income families/elderly--they should have proper management within the confines of these facilities to ensure safety for all. More open space for parks and recreation.

NO MORE DEVELOPMENT of condos/new homes--there is already too much.

Assembly should be a single family housing development for all that want to buy a home but have been left out of the market due to the ongoing discrimination of class--single mothers, people of color, etc.

The claim is that no one is turned away, but you fail to point out that the fraudulent loans--MAJORITY were granted to uneducated, undocumented/documented immigrants, people of color because the other banks will not grant these individuals a modest home loan. Many have been tossed into the economic slaughterhouse, who will never have the opportunity to own their own home, even though a great percentage lost homes due to lost jobs. Outsourcing made sure of that--the losers on WS had a major plan to wipe out the lower classes with insurance. If one scam failed, the next would work.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

1:40 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

We already have some of the highest paid teachers in MA, average salary is $80,144 (http://profiles.doe.mass.edu/state_report/teachersalaries.aspx?mode=&year=2011&orderBy=AVERAGE%20DESC)

Stop development in somerville...I disagree, I think we should focus on increasing population density on targeted economic areas around public transport - change zoning in areas to allow them to build up.

Your other proposition for a new neighborhood of subsidized housing in assembly sq is not even worth discussion. (and flies in the face of your previous suggestion)

I am not sure what claim you are referring to or what im not pointing out... but today it is hard for anyone who is not financially sound to get a mortgage... Ill be honest im having trouble following your train of thought but it seems like you have plunged head first into conspiracy theory.

The biggest issue we face today is not wall street it is personal accountability.

SomervilleGirl

1:15 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

If they want development, bring in commercial real estate. What is the reason we cannot draw this market to our town? Can you give me a valid reason?

I'll tell you my opinion--because it's easier to just build condos. Obviously there is lack of interest for some unknown reason, otherwise they would be here.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

1:43 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

The plan is mixed use... a mix of retail, commercial, residential and lab...check the current plan...

SomervilleGirl

1:27 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

How many of the rich have defaulted on loans? What happens to them? NOTHING. They get back on their feet in no time with the same loan because they have connections, friends at the bank, friends who have collected donations, etc., etc.

They talk the talk but don't walk the walk....seldom will you ever read their dirty laundry in the newspapers, but I assure you it's there. I know some stories about how the money had been acquired and lost. One was met by the midnight pool man before facing a judge--billions embezzled by investors. Held in such high regard for years and the wife worked out a deal.

If you want to discuss how the rich live their lives, please be my guest. I know how it really is and it's all do disgusting to think about. When we have millions of people in this country who continue to be struggling just to get by and the criminals of white collar crime continue to make a mockery of the rest of us--this is what I am upset about. Zero accountability for serious crimes, while we put petty thieves away for a lifetime. That's what this society has come to, whether you believe it or not. And I also suspect that most of that money embezzled was to finance the fraud wars which are no more than the biggest heist of the century--depleting these countries of precious resources they must rely on for survival. We should be so proud.

It's a global issue--I'm talking the bigger picture which is causing what we have before us now.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

1:45 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

now you are 100% off topic.

SomervilleGirl

2:11 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Matt C,

You asked me what I would propose for this site and I added what I felt was needed in our city, outlined clearly. How you get subsidized housing from home ownership, I have no idea. Maybe I should have added apartments for low income, which no doubt would have sent you into orbit.

To understand your motivation, I must assume you are young without much life experience, hardships, etc., to have make such narrow-minded statements. You really are not concerned about what happens to the displaced locals once this city transforms into another "beacon hill-back bay" capital venture.

Maybe my ideas seem outlandish to you, but that is expected if you have not grown up in a working class community. Conspiracy theories? I wish that were the case. Where do you get your information--Faux News? That would explain a great deal. Vote Republican? That explains more. Do you have kids in public school? Maybe no kids, or are they in private. Hey, it's your business, don't have to answer I don't care to know.

The only reason you are continually badgering me into these pointless discussions is an attempt to discredit my comments so your argument will garnish some points for your friends who are pushing for the real Emerald City they hope Assembly will become. All I can say is....be careful what you wish for--even Dorothy realized Kansas was a better place after all.

Wall Street had everything to do with what we see before us. Those who committed fraud are in RE.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

2:23 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Don't make assumptions on my life experience - though probably different then yours I am sure there were several overlapping areas. Whether you believe it or not my statements are pretty well informed, and my proposals are generally reasonable... I also never attacked your personal experience or who you are nor did i make assumptions about them. I focused on the content of the discussion and as often as possible use facts and reference them.

The reason why i have these conversations is because I want to try to understand your perspective and give you the opportunity to understand mine. As long as we both live here we both have an interest in the city and what it becomes as it changes... because it is changing, it always has and always will.

SomervilleGirl

2:32 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Matt C,

You are hopelessly narrow--$80k for teachers in MA? Is that Somerville? Are they weeding out the bad? One of my teacher's kept a bottle of scotch locked in his filing cabinet. He had someone protecting his job-his brother. He managed to stay on until retirement. There were others that were just as bad. I'm guessing we still have some of the same ones. When I see schools not being maintained, I must question where are those funds? How many people do we need working for our city--is anyone being held accountable for how they use their time? I also question the newcomers who are hired that spend wasted over the planning stages of our city. Who is doing the assessment of how city funds are allocated? Is there an objective party doing that or is it the same people year after year?

When I picked up my parking permit last week, I stood in line for 45 minutes. There were three people ahead of me. I've worked in customer service much of my young adult life and same now but in different fields. This would never be tolerated in most areas of business--making people wait for this amount of time just to pick up a sticker.

I consider myself a productive person who does not waste time and do not expect to be paid if I'm not doing my job. There are plenty of people who are and yes, they are from every walk of life.

The issues in our city effect all of us, but it's how they are addressed which matters.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

4:50 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Yes that is MA and yes that is somerville, I included the link for a reason... I agree that we must reform how teachers are paid and focus on merit rather than tenure. Also that this same attention needs to be paid to all parts of city government.

I have had both good and bad experiences with the city and outside the $50 ticket for anything I think they do an okay job. They have been making improvements, you can now do many services online, and they are becoming more responsive to peoples needs like 411, Reverse 911, 3-day parking etc. It would be nice to see change come more quickly... but that is often not the way things work.

SomervilleGirl

2:34 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

It all boils down to the same issues--what is the city doing to help locals remain in our community?

Reply

SomervilleGirl

2:56 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Did I strike a nerve-- it absolutely does matter. This is from my own perspective and life experiences as someone who is not giving up the fight to live in my own home. The people who have moved into our city have their own separate agenda and it has nothing to do with helping the locals remain here.

If you are having difficulty with that --too bad. I would not choose to argue or censor anyone who spoke their opinion.

If we disagree, just leave it at that, why persist?

The word has been out for quite sometime now. The media can put whatever spin on it they choose, but it's still is the same story.

William Worthy wrote a well know publication called, "The Rape of Our Neighborhoods", published in 1976. He was a visionary and someone who was deeply concerned about the neighborhood takeovers within communities like ours.
You should pick up a copy and read it, maybe you would have a better understanding of what I am trying to convey.

Until people learn how to work together in a civil manner, while tolerating differences and personal challenges of others, we cannot begin to accept the changes in our city. Those who feel entitled and superior, in the end will not be successful. They will always be considered outsiders, carpetbaggers, strangers in a foreign land.

One final note: I'm being honest about how these changes are effecting locals. If Assembly is successful for everyone in the city including locals, I will be over-joyed.
We shall see.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

4:45 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

I'm completely okay with us disagreeing with one another, but this is a public forum and you are not the only person I am talking to. You put out your opinion and then became upset and personally attack me as I countered your points.

I know that you care about this town and I think (I could be wrong) that you want to stop further change, and that is your right, just as it is mine to appreciate the benefit of the changes the city has seen over the past 30 years and want more of it. I too am invested in the city. Our differences lay in that we have a different vision of what Somerville can be or should become. I do my best to be educated and to be able to articulate my own position on topics, respond to criticism of it and apply criticism to others points when I believe they merit criticism. If this is behaving entitled or superior then, well whats the point of having a discussion forum if a dissenting opinion will always be labeled as such.

Believe it or not, but eveyone that lives here is a "local" whether they are here for 1 year or their entire life. The job of the government is to respond to everyone's needs not just those that have been here the longest. That is how a democracy works. That means they are as much obliged to my 70yo aunt living down the st. who has lived here longer than you have been alive as they are to me how moved here near to 10 years ago and my neighbor of 1 year.

AHM

6:07 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I can't keep up with this. My idea of affordable housing would not be a project but have a percentage of the project low income but in a way that if they buy in or rent it would work on a percentage of their income versus what the rent or sale is but stay in such a manner that someone would not be able to buy it and sell it for a huge profit down the line. It would always be based on income. I probably am not too great at explaining it. But maybe I got enough into it to make sense. I wasn't crazy about the soccer thing, but that's just me. I would have like mixed food options, as in lower priced family style places as well us the upper end that I can't afford. There should be a way for us to live together. That's why I never liked Joe when he first ran for mayor and why I still can't stand him. It's like we don't exist. He is working for one group of people and that is real obvious. Which is wy I see Aseembly as it's own neighborhood having nothing to do with the rest of Somerville.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

4:29 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

AMH, your proposal for affordable housing is very similar to how the BHA's affordable opportunity program works today... And is a GOOD program (which is why i posted the link in response to SomervilleGirl).

Comment_arrow

AHM

4:49 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Matt, I probably missed that as things got going here a bit too fast for my old feeble mind. I stayed with my aunt in the projects many years ago in Andover or Lawrence, not sure but it was at the edge. It was nice there, not like the ones in Somerville. The only problem I saw in the Somerville one is the bad apples that got in. I knew a few people in both projects who needed to be there and they were good people and if the projects were made up of people like them it wouldn't have the bad rap it has now. Just too many of the wrong element. It's too bad as so many today with shrinking paychecks and job losses really need the help. I was not happy to find out last year that Somerville has an increase in homeless people. Sorry, but that bothers me.

Comment_arrow

Matt C

3:02 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

AHM, I spent years working in housing projects and grew up down the street from elderly housing in my home town. As a child, they were my neighbors and I would go visit and talk with them. Between my experiences as a child and those as an adult I know each one has their own culture and is different from the next and that the majority of people living in them just want to work hard and go about their lives and try to give their kids more opportunity than they had.

I agree with you on the part about an increase in homelessness, but I believe as the economy turns for the better that will decrease. We are already seeing a rebound in jobs, retirement savings and housing value - I really thing there is a light at the end of the tunnel and we are not that far. That said, I think the world has changed and we need to adjust our expectations to that the current world. I don't think we will see pensions of the 60's, the financial boom of the 90's or even the mortgage rates we see today in the future. But who knows - there may be a renascence

SomervilleGirl

7:24 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

AHM,

If I have to choose between more luxury condos and a Bob Kraft soccer field, I'm choosing the latter. If they favor the condo-pushers, they will be alienating the rest of the city. The land should be shared by everyone who lives in the city. Not for those who can "AFFORD IT". Affording a place to live is the responsibility of the town.

If we allowed that, we are no better than the bigots of Belmont Hill who banned the hospice center because they can't dare to look at what's coming down the road for them one day. We all have to go someday, even those who live in Belmont. I couldn't believe my ears when I was listening to that video. This is what goes on behind closed doors at meetings with planning boards such as Belmont and with people who can strong arm residents into voting for one alternative. Romney's son had no intention of buying that land, but he would be damned to allow the hospice center to build there, even when it was revealed that Belmont needed the money. And do you know why? Because it leaked out that it was squandered on salaries for friends in town and an over-sized clubhouse, probably for those old coots at the golf course. Give me a break. And they profess to be Christians--thank God he did not become president. We would all be living in caves by now or left for dead.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

7:42 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

AHM,

If you look at other towns across the state (S.& N.Shore)people who run the towns will never agree to affordable housing. They do everything in their power not to allow it and it's the same lame excuse--"we don't want our home values to drop". You and I know what the real reason is and it's best left unsaid. Little do they know, their home values are a figment of their warped imaginations. I worked for a local realtor for a friend, covering his adm. position while he was out of town. The things I witnessed were shocking and experienced it elsewhere. There are realtors, on behalf of the town's best interest who will not allow certain people to move into their town or buy condos, rent apartments. If someone wants to sell a house for a large sum of money--they have to hire an out-of-town realtor to find a buyer willing to pay the exorbitant price. This happened right in my neighborhood. House sold for $199k in the mid 90's, buyer flipped it during the housing bubble, around 2002 for $650k, woman from Concord bought it. It got flipped again just several years later by her son who inherited the house, sold for $749k. This is a single family home!
Another buyer in neighborhood, same thing--$749k. But they live among all the old distressed homes and I hope it stays this way for a very long time. Locals are smart, they know how to keep their homes maintained, without over extending themselves to the point of being forced to sell or worse.

Reply

AHM

7:54 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I was in Cambridge and the people were complaining about a hospice coming in also. Can't say much as it effects my income. But what the heck can dying people do to be a problem to the community? I don't get it. As for Romney for president I think he would have been better than what we have but probably not much. Neither one is presidential material as far as I am concerned. It is supposed to be a free country but it really is not. But I am going to try and keep this about Assembly. I also thought that the people who were thrown out of Assembly who were long time good companies should have been able to stay. It was disapointing the way they were treated. Central was a good company for one. I know what's it's like as I went through it here many years ago when they built the East Somerville school. We just ended up closing the business as the city was of no help. The Alderman there at the time had his hand out but we were too stubborn to get into that and it took us another year of fighting with the city to settle with them. We had a big shot lawyer who was a long time friend of my father who guided us through the process so we didn't have to kiss any...

Reply

SomervilleGirl

8:53 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

AHM,

My view is that Assembly is the outcome of all the issues which have plagued our city, razing of buildings, foreclosures, condo-epidemic, and just overall attitudes of people who have moved into town--"if they can't have our neighborhoods because they are not up to their standards and stubborn locals won't move out--then give them Assembly"! Is that it?

If they want their own gated community to be Assembly, why not just ask for it? Let's be honest about the process--but no, they would rather manipulate and deceive the public into thinking they will be somehow included. When I read what the developer said about not agreeing with having Krafts soccer field, I knew then what he was referring to. The last thing they want is to have to share space with the immigrant population of our region. They pretend to be so open to diversity--not. Just as long as they stay on their side of the fence, it's okay.

Another house on my street sold a few months ago. A young couple couldn't keep up with the payments, one lost their job, they were forced to sell or maybe short sale. I'm not sure of their circumstances, but I spoke with them briefly before they left. I felt badly about their situation and they seemed like nice people, willing to engage with local neighbors, friendly. Well, sure enough, there was an out-of-town realtor who sold to someone from a N.Western state. How much does one have to put down for a home that sells for over $750k? I'm sure they will fit right in.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

9:01 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

AHM,

I'm sorry for your troubles over the years in the city. Not being a business owner, I have no idea what it would be like, but I'm guessing not smooth sailing. In some ways, being a landlord is a bit the same, but luckily it's not as stressful.

Reply
Comment_arrow

AHM

9:25 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Nothing to be sorry for, it's just part of the hassle of living. Nothing keeps me down. The next day I am out working, I don't sit home and collect, I take what I can get and keep going. I have a great story I want to write one day. I hope to do this soon before I forget all the details. I have worked in unions, non unions and self employed. I ran a business when working for these companies. My plan was to make a lot of money and get rich that idea is beginning to fade<G>. Who do you think will run for mayor of Assembly??

SomervilleGirl

9:58 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

AHM,

You should write your story. It can always be a work of fiction.

Mayor of Assembly? Can we find someone like Willie Stark or James Michael Curly?
Maybe someone from the Nouveau Riche' crowd which they would prefer since being class conscious appears to be in their DNA...am I being offensive?

Reply
Comment_arrow

AHM

12:11 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Couldn't resist. I met him when he was first getting politics and I took an instant dislike towards him. Don't know why, Kind of the same when I met Kerry. It would probably never happen but I can see Assembly being their own town. I think I am too old fashioned for all this.

SomervilleGirl

12:45 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

AHM,

I guess you know the back-story on that, really sad--lots of bizarre stuff from this town, never a dull moment.

You're not too old fashioned, you are more of what we need in this city--Refreshingly Rational!--one who understands family values and the real world.
I have very little tolerance for the superficial, artificial and insane.

I'm preparing a new blog you might enjoy--it's a bit of family history.

Reply

AHM

5:23 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I can't wait to see that. The stories I have is about people in Somerville who did wonderful things and had big impacts on people's lives. Some are no longer here but their impact is still going on. I am not a writer type person so it is a little hard to get into. Probably my 7th grade education, I am more hands on than office type.

Reply

AHM

8:26 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I wonder how they will do the non smoking thing there. I can't imagine they could enforce that. Even if they don't smoke tobacco I am sure some other stuff may be smoked. I didn't think in such a large development they could do that. Maybe a 2 family house but not there. Personally I can't tolerate it.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

7:16 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Matt C.,

You are incorrect in your comment about who is a "local", as you would be if you lived in Charlestown, where natives are referred to as "townies", same for South Boston.

I don't have a problem with people moving into the city and being honest of their intentions--many are not. When I complain about the newcomers, I am referring to a certain group within the body of people. I will admit at times I will generalize without that intention. There are many people who have come to the city and brought positive attitudes and talents, have a willingness to meet and learn what native Somerville is all about. Then there are others who will look right through them as if they weren't even there.

I have issues with people who feel they can move to a town, any town and change everything about the place. Their clear intentions are visible by only some of us who have experience with this behavior first hand--as in the way I'm treated by some of my new neighbors who try to tell me what color to paint my house, how much I should trim back of my large trees (which they receive shade during hot summer months) when my Arborist knows better. They are snobs, plain and simple, who are determined to change all the neighborhoods and drive out the "locals". The only thing they care about is their "PROPERTY VALUES".

I find your comments antagonistic and provoking a negative response. So, if you don't mind, I would appreciate not addressing me again unless it's constructive.

Reply

Matt C

2:48 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

I have had some great experiences with people in this city and especially in my neighborhood. My street has people who have been here for months and generations. On once side of me I have a woman who grew up on the street, on the other and across are young families who have moved here over the past 15 years. Each of them pouring their life into their neighborhood and homes to make it "the kind of place they want to live"

We all look out for each other and help one another out be it by helping to shovel, or pulling in your trash barrel or just watching out when you are out of the house. It is not just the people who have lived on the street for generations, it is everyone. When people do work to improve their home, others stop to tell them how great it looks and swap advice on materials, plumbers etc.

The "us" vs "them" attitude described in many of the comments is extremist and not how the majority of people think no matter who you point out to be "them". Whether you were born here, or moved here from the next town or another continent you live here and deserve equal say in the future of the city.

Reply
Comment_arrow

SomervilleGirl

7:29 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Matt C.,

What do you base this on? One street in the entire city? ....
"NOT HOW THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THINK"....did you take a survey? This is the most ridiculous statement I have read. How do you know what people think? I don't know where you get your information, but you need a serious reality check. Maybe if you don't hear it, it's because locals don't want to hear the back-lash--let this interaction be one great example. Many local friends have packed up & left because they were sick of not being heard & were forced out of town. You care to dispute that? You describe me as an extremist? Why, because I shared FACTS of negative experiences I have had along w/ local neighbors, family and friends with certain newcomers who are annoying, intrusive, entitled, while attempting to force us into their EXTREME SELF-INVOLVED lifestyle all in the name of helping them increase their PROPERTY VALUES? I've asked you in a polite manner to not address me unless you write something constructive. I find your comments to be rude, antagonistic while lacking common sense. You have no basis for your argument because you lack the understanding and tolerance of opinions by those who do not agree with you.This is exactly the type of behavior we see--"I want it my way and if I can't have it my way, I won't allow anyone else to be content until I do".
Why don't you write your own blog if you are so convinced every neighborhood is as harmonious as you described? Can you handle competition?

Comment_arrow

Matt C

9:59 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

1. I have every right to use anecdotal experience as you do.
2. By stating my own personal experience I have already disputed your experience.
3. Experience are not facts, when i present facts I use a reference.
4. I didn't address you, but since you chose to address me here are a few thoughts. You are clearly so self involved that you imagine that my post was directed at you AND you have yet to realize you are that horrible neighbor that you so eloquently describe trying to force her lifestyle on all of us in the name of keeping your childhood memories a reality. When you don't like what you hear you attack the person and make presumptions about their background.

You are as much a NIMBY as those folks you complain about in Belmont who don't want "those people" moving in and not letting the town grow and evlove when it doesn't suit you.. oh, and yes, my neighbors and I friendly to one another, lookout for one another and manage to care about what is happening to our neighborhood and our property values.

AHM

6:28 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Matt, there is not equal say in this city. Too many things are done for just a small group of people. Assembly just proves that. Once you want to add in lower priced stores or restaurants the city and the few are against it. Not everyone sees some of these so called improvements as improvements. I recognize how this city is going and what it is becoming and I know it is not anything I want to be part of. Regardless of what I want it will not matter. For it to be equal there has to be a mixture. In the new part being built now there will not be a place to shop or eat that more than 50% of residents can afford or would want to even go to. Case in point was the Olive Garden, personally I have never been in one and don't know what it is like but many people I know and talk to go to them outside the city with their families and were really ticked off at Joe for shooting them down. I do know and talk to a lot of people in this city so it is not just a couple of people. Try putting a Walmart in here. If you put it on a ballot it they will get in. Don't and a small group of people will try to squash it. Once again, I am not a Walmart shopper.

Reply

AHM

6:29 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Matt, part 2. I expect in the coming years only people with high incomes will be living here. We jsut saw the mayor get a $20000 raise, smart way would have been small ones along the way. When people see that and their combined incomes are that much per year they tend to get cranky. I suppose if you are making $100000 plus a year it may not seem like such a big deal. I got over 60 yeasr here and I am priced out of here. Once my taxes are ready I plan to go to city hall and see what I can do. I hate to do that as I always paid my fair share but I either get them lowered or find out what to do about not paying them. So yes, we get a tad disgrunteled.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Matt C

9:34 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

You are right, there is not equal say - but I don't think the division of say is around newness to the city which has been alluded to, rather I think that here, like most cities and towns, there is a group of politically connected people that drive the direction of the city. Beyond that, on any issue, I think that there are small vocal minorities that because they are loud they get their way.

I expect that Assembly Sq. will be something similar to Station Landing (which the shops and restaurants are reasonable), but at a larger scale. I have seen developments at that same size in other parts of the country (http://www.redmondtowncenter.com/) with a difference, this project has people living and working there, which in my opinion makes it even better.

I can't really address the issue about becoming priced out. That is one of the effects of living in what is becoming a desirable neighborhood. It happens in both directions Mattapan went from being a middle class Jewish neighborhood to a poorer African/Caribbean-american neighborhood and the South End of Boston the opposite. As long as people want to move here the cost of doing so will continue to rise, and many people will leave (some who own their home with a handsome pay out). At the end of the day it stinks when you can no longer afford to live where you want.

Comment_arrow

SomervilleGirl

10:02 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

AHM,

The reason I believe the soccer field is a great idea is because I think it will be one place were everyone will benefit. Organized sports is big business, but more importantly, it brings families together from all walks of life. Maybe Joe hopes it will do just that and we know that many countries around the globe enjoy the sport as well so why not let them benefit? There are not enough well maintained soccer fields in the region and leagues do struggle to find ones that are adequate to play on. Maybe they will rent out the field when not used by major teams? If not, they will enjoy watching the games.

I'm happy that he rejects the idea of having a casino, that will only bring problems. I don't like gambling and what comes with it. I think they should ban all gambling and drugs. It would be a step in the right direction.

If the soccer field doesn't get in, we will know just how bad things have become--the scales will be tipped to one side only.

Comment_arrow

AHM

7:26 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Can't really ban gambling, drugs and prostitution. These exist, it is a reality. I think we should have legalized it like alcohol and at least get revenue out of it and with the profit use it to help keep it under control. With that being said I have no intrest in any of that. I have yet to buy a lottery ticket or go to a casino and the last option is not going to happen. If we can't stamp it out and we are spening lots of money on it then we need to go to plan B. The sports thing, I don't know. I see too much violance at these things, hardly a good message to send to our kids. Many years ago when I got slightly involved I got pretty disgusted with the way it was run and no longer would have anything to do with it. Won't donate a penny towards it. I just could not hurt kids that way. In Dedham the person running the show would let all kids play and be equal about it which I thought was really good. Everyone got a fair amount of time. Not selected ones or those who were not as good. So I get a bit negative about so called sports for kids.

SomervilleGirl

10:50 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Has anyone ever acted this way towards a neighbor?

Coax them into using same color mulch because it matches YOURS

Asked what color they were painting their house at every opportunity and insisting on your color preferences

Ran outside in the rain shouting in an attempt to try and prevent the Arborist from trimming their tree

Yelled at the neighbor's landscaper using a leaf blower in the middle of the day, demand they leave the premises if they don't stop

Ask not to plant certain flower seeds in their yard for fear they will blow into your yard, telling you they are only a WEED

Make repeated demands and complaints to one local pol about snow plows dumping snow into the driveway, remind them of your $700k house--why sidewalk trees are not been replaced after hurricane even when holes in the ground left by fallen trees were to dangerous to leave uncovered, were cemented. The trees were half way up the street, not even seen. Complaints, demands, complaints--no end.

They believe they own the entire neighborhood, but should have stuck with their well manicured suburban wet dream.

When you buy a house/property it sits on--THAT IS ALL YOU OWN. You don't own the neighbor's homes, the sidewalks or trees, the roadways or the weeds that grow around the telephone pole you can't bare to look at or the manhole covers.

It's obviously time for your MEDICATION!

Reply
Comment_arrow

AHM

7:09 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

I have seen this in different areas of Somerville. One person I know goes after people in the neighborhood who try to vinal thier houses. The people there can't stand this person. Not so much on my street, I do get comments like I am lucky my house is shingled. Little do they know I plan on vinal siding. Don't care, it's my house. Unless I see that I am leaving soon then I may have to reconsider to get more money. No tree in front of my house and I plan to keep it that way. This is the city, not the country.

SomervilleGirl

10:57 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

I've learned the best way to deal with a person who is a nuisance--whether they be an annoying, narrow-minded, commenter or an idiot neighbor--just hit the ignore button.

They will stop when they don't get the attention they so crave. I'm sure Freud would have a better explanation, but it's better not to give it anymore thought because it's wasted time. It's simple, there are just some miserable people out there that have nothing better to do with their time.

Sometimes, they just hope you will write something that gets you booted off the site! LONG WAIT

Reply

SomervilleGirl

11:00 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

I'm not leaving the site...you've got a long wait

Reply

SomervilleGirl

10:44 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

AHM,

I'm not surprised to hear your story of an attempt to ban vinal siding. They have succeeded in banning Styrofoam in Brookline, some towns it's small size bottled
water.

Many homeowners can barely pay their mortgages due to the long recession. Anyone who demands people "improve their homes" is just looking out for their "property values", nothing more. I often wonder how this place got a heavy injection of money--where does it all come from? 400% returns on monopoly money investments? There were plenty of high-rollers at the WS casino, not all losers, but we don't hear about the winners. Could they be investing their earnings in real estate? The timing seems perfect. I use to work for a builder some time ago, not around here, along the coast. Home buyers were paying with cash, no banks involved. I always wondered how that was possible. The builder and sub's were over joyed and would cut corners, install faulty equipment. If the bank wasn't doing the inspections, who knew?

About soccer-- If it's going to be a Kraft Stadium, there will be high level security. But the high volume of traffic could be a deterrent.

Reply
Comment_arrow

AHM

7:43 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

There is a lot of money being made under the radar. I have been in homes where a suitcase full of cash was pulled out to pay a bill. There is a lot of cash business going on here in Somerville. Due to new EPA laws some homeowners are paying cash for undocumented workers(illegals) to work on their properties because going under the radar saves them thousands, then they are long gone before anything can be done. This is a pre 1978 thing. It also has a great effect on everybodies health that is living near or in one of these places. Most are not aware of it. That is why they come in a scrape and paint with a very large crew and then get out of there without doing it the proper way by law. A legitmate company with the proper license would have to charge much more to do it legally or face up to $40,000 fines per day per violation. This has hurt many legitimate contractors money wise or put them out of business.

AHM

7:44 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Part 2
One I found out about after the fact is on the corner of Fenwick and Jacques where they sanded the outside with rotary sanders letting all the lead paint into the air and into the ground and into the houses surrounding it. One of those house flipping deals. Poor people that bought it have no idea what they just got. I just hope they don't have little kids. Also additions and other building projects where cash is used to save on taxes plus the builder works on cash and pays cash to employees saving a large amount of money that would be going to the city and state. My wife did housecleaning, also priced out by the illegals doing it for cash. We were stupid and paid taxes because I was a big chicken and afraid of the IRS and didn't want to take a chance on losing my home. Guess I got off topic with my ranting. Plus too many words.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

7:23 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

AHM,

It is an important issue because it ties in with how the scales of class have been tipped. Most of our jobs have gone overseas. The middle-class has been sinking for years. Various topics concerning immigration are complicated. I have spoken with people about it, some are immigration lawyers. I posed a question--"Why doesn't the government just make them go back"? Answer--"Their countries won't take them back".

I'll provide my perspective from your comments regarding contractors. I have family members in the trades. Some work for sub's. The American subcontractors hire the illegals and make them work very long hours into the evening. Sometimes they don't get paid, some have families to feed, they also must pay rent. Yes, it's all cash transactions, but now employers must be aware of the govt. penalizing them for hiring illegals, sometimes $20k-$40k. I hear the stories. I don't get angry at the illegals--I get angry at the subs because many of these workers are abused. The employer does not have to pay workers comp for illegals. What happens if the guy falls off the ladder and breaks a leg or worse? Who pays for his hospital bill? Who's fault is it, really?

There is not much difference in the way my own parents lived when they first arrived to the U.S., as far back as the 20's for dad, 50's for mom. They scraped by for years, maybe welfare wasn't as popular--people had pride and I know my parents did without before they would accept it.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

7:46 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

AHM,

Civil unrest is perpetuated by bad govt's. People are unwilling to see the bigger picture. Many distrust Americans because bad things are being done under the radar. No one will blow the whistle on an American contractor, but as soon as an illegal does something wrong, they are ready to toss them under the guillotine. What type of agreements do we have with foreign countries when it comes to illegals? Did you know they are allowed to have bank accounts. Some American attorney's are making a mint doing this work and still no green card. Don't you think that is a big odd? I've also seen how they are treated in coastal communities, they have very little rights. Their lives in their homeland are much worse, so that's why they tolerate it. Yes, I suppose when you are unable to drink the contaminated water of your native land, that must be a bit rough. Living between drug dealers wielding machine guns and decapitating innocent people, not something anyone would be signing up for, I'm sure.

I have family living in Mexico, US citizens. Their dad worked for the govt., many years ago, high level job. The family moved to Texas because it became unsafe.
You know what they tell me?, "Americans don't want to pick oranges in 95 degree heat".

So I guess the corporations are doing well, why not spread the wealth to the sub's?
People who hire these workers know they are getting more bang for their buck. In this economy, who can argue that? OUTSOURCING created this mess.

Reply
Comment_arrow

AHM

8:22 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I don't see this as a big problem. I think we should have a pre green card system, just to speed things up. Where the illegals can get the pregreen card easaly but it comes with a trial period to get the green card. This sort of takes it out from being just illegal and should help with much of the illagal hiring practices and help weed out the bad apples who should not be here. Shoud they be caught doing illegal things(just to keep this short) then they are out of here. After a length of set time they could go into green card status if they don't get into trouble. They would be hireable in my system. At least it will do something than just year after year of nothing being done about the problem. Then when better minds come up with a solution we can do that. Tired of the government just sitting idle when they are here to work for us and solve these problems. They get paid big bucks for that.

AHM

7:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

It is a compicated issue with the illegals which I believe is easily solved. Legal immigration is another story and coming here with nothing. I have heard the stories of many, Irish, Italian and Syrian. Those are ones I remember to this day. Yes, they were proud adn went through bad times. I did myself. My wife once went to welfare and left without anything because she just could not do it. I am eligable for many things which I refuse to take. What little I have I worked for, not handed to. As for the illegal getting hurt, we pay that. They have to go to the hospital and claim they got injured in another manner than what really happened. And hiring illegals is still going on strong.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

7:54 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

AHM,

If most American families were doing well, would anyone be beating the drum on the illegal or the welfare recipients? No one cared 10 years ago, not as much as they do today. But our govt. lets them stay and their countries are underdeveloped. My solution would be to send a few thousand healthcare workers and introduce birth control. We have a major population problem on our planet that has gone unchecked for decades. It's been taught in universities, but somehow this knowledge doesn't really make it to the rest of the globe. Let's face it--slave labor will not be eradicated. It's much too profitable for the elite, "Why spoil a great thing?", must be spoken on every private golf course across the planet.

Reply

AHM

8:11 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Some cared, just not the right people who could do something about it. We do have way too many people, I agree on that. People will just generally find a way to abuse the system. I see way too much of that abuse. Even today we still have many proud people who won't go and collect money for welfare and disability.. Just when the people see we are spening billions of dollars in the news then they realize what has happened. Another thing is they are big voters for the D party. That's all I heard in the last election from people I talked to, they didn''t want to lose their free source of income. Unemployment is another one. When I worked for companies and got laid off I just went and got a job, any job. I was building a house, got laid off, 2 days later working in a laundry. Didn't care, money coming in and then I could look for a job that I wanted. Never thought to go and collect.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

8:21 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

AHM,

So do you agree that an American Contractor has the right to abuse and exploit an illegal immigrant in any way they choose?

If an American worker gets hurt on the job working for a contractor he expects them to file for workers comp in order to get healed. How about if he doesn't get a paycheck and the boss keeps milking him for more work, would that be okay?
Some may take them to court and fight for their earnings, but we all know the illegal would rather face a pack of hungry wolves than face an American court room as an illegal, so the sub wins every time.

Not all American contractors are doing this, but many are and I know of one specifically because my family member has shared this story. He worked on the same property along side of the illegals and could not believe how they were treated. We were raised to be compassionate of all people unless they provide a reason not to be. There are plenty of illegals who are breaking the laws, but yet, they keep feeding the legal system$$$$$$$$$$$.

Didn't Romney get called on this very situation when he hired illegals to landscape his double digit million dollar home in Belmont?

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-19/politics/politics_truth-squad-hiring-illegals_1_illegal-immigrants-mitt-romney-illegal-workers?_s=PM:POLITICS

"Do as I say but not what I do"...Romney. Did he ever disclose his income tax returns? I would think Romney could afford to pay an American contractor to do the work of an illegal, yes?

Reply
Comment_arrow

AHM

8:30 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Not sticking up for Romney but most people do not have a clue as to who is doing the work for the company they hire. Many of my customers just complain they can't communicate with the crew as usally the boss is not there and they can't speak english. So they don't know if they are illegal or not. I am not into treating anyone bad, I don;t know how anyone can. When I had employees I just treated them the best I could. Probably my downfall as it worked against me except for a couple of workers.

SomervilleGirl

8:43 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

AHM,

Do you honestly believe that Romney did not know he has illegals working on his property? He's not alone, most do know, but they would rather have the illegal because there are no strings and they save about 60% of the bill.
Before I took over the property, mom hired people she could afford, some were friends of the family, Italians. Others were American's. The Italians were unskilled and doing carpentry work, later we found bigger problems that got corrected with the new construction. There was one situation that cost $3k and mom never got the work done. The American contractor had done work for a family member--house painting. Seemed like a good guy. He worked for about a week. We didn't hear from him again until a month later. He had a story about college students he hired spilling paint (which dried) along the side of a customer's house, an elderly woman. He was too busy working on that house and couldn't come back. I took him to mediation to try and get some of the money back. I understand things like this can happen, but as a person in business, you must find a solution or refund the money. He did neither, we let it go. I was in my 20's, mom really had no way of dealing with it and at the time could not afford a lawyer who would cost more than what was owed. Today, I would have hauled him into court and let a judge decide. Finding reputable people in the business is hard work. Many professions charge twice as much because the clientele is broke.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

9:04 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

AHM,

About the injuries on the job and overall healthcare provision--this is another big issue which has been ignored for decades. And it's the American worker who also is effected. How many people, overall, are not covered by health insurance? Many of the small trades jobs do not pay benefits. I believe every employer should pay for healthcare, but it's the govt's responsibility to make it cost effective for the small business owner and we have yet to see this happen.

I don't like the fact that the hospitals/state/federal govt. is subsidizing healthcare in situations as this, but if the employer can't or won't provide it, who will be picking up the tab?

The taxpayer has already bailed out the untouchables on WS and their cohorts, but I don't hear anyone screaming about the $$$ trillion that was ripped off and much of it sitting in an untaxed slush fund somewhere in the Caribbean.

If we could retrieve even half of that amount, maybe we would be able recover. As long as corporations, WS and banks are running the show, things are going to remain as they are or get worse. I was raised a conservative democrat--if I had it my way, all people making $250k and up would have to pay higher taxes until things got back to the way it was before ENRON. That was the beginning of the end, in my opinion. Capitalism is not what we see going on today. Instead, we have--http://laborlou.com/2011/03/oligarchs-vs-plutocrats/

Reply

SomervilleGirl

9:23 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

AHM,

I'm in total agreement with you about how to improve on the green card and weeding out. Not that long ago there was a story in the paper about a hair salon with a massage parlor. I found out by someone who was renting an apt. from the owner, that she was hiring someone from NY to issue hairstyling licenses to her employees who would later be eligible for other things, auto license, etc., maybe even a green card. They would charge the women $5k and split the fee. Who do you suppose was working the license end? Who can have access to those documents? Shouldn't someone be overseeing this process? Well, in the end, they shut her down. She owned several homes and a few expensive cars. I wondered what was the final conclusion of that story.

About unemployment--that was in the past. Most avoided unemployment benefits--it was viewed as another form of welfare. But AHM--I am not exaggerating any of this--the corporate greed has created this beast along with many others. They teach these "great" business tactics at the best schools.."How to increase our bottom line". There were a couple of stories about our friend who benefits by cheap labor in the garden--taking a troubled company, but rather than build it up, "let's cash out and let it burn". Companies have the tools to find ways to get rid of employees--forced out, forced retirement, layoffs--why does the govt. allow it? These companies have no valid reason to layoff, they are not broke, how is it possible?

Reply

AHM

9:30 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

As I said, I will give him some doubt. He was never aorund much and probably has no clue. But can't be 100% sure. We have plenty of things to blame on him anyway. Much of my work is has been to clean up after others and fix their work. I have pretty much seen it all and heard it. Too many have no clue what they are doing. Not always is the guy with all the licenses the one who can do the work right and be fair.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

10:20 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

AHM,

Knew a guy from WS once worked together and would debate about D vs. R. Months later, he said, "There is only one party, no longer two". It took me time to to agree since I have been D, all my voting years. I recall dad saying, "wars are created so capitalists can make money" and "you should never mortgage, because the bank will always own your home". At the time, I was too young to understand his great wisdom. My favorite saying, "the system is rigged". I believe none of what has happened economically was by accident, or created by homeowners, illegals or people with bad credit. it was intentional created by those who had the power to do so and they had everyone by the you know what, even the pols. When they discovered that all of their retirement money had been wrapped up in fraud loans, what choice was there? They talk the talk, but don't walk the walk--go along to get along.

I learned a great deal about contractors over the years through family and in my own experience as a homeowner. Did you ever see the movie with Tom Hanks, "Money Pit"? One of my favorites. If you know the movie, you will recall the plumber and carpenter who show up in at the very beginning. The carpenter is driving an expensive sports car. Well, the movie had a lot of good humor and lots of insinuations of the tradesmen. "It will be done in TWO WEEKS"
I lost a good plumber, friend of the family, who couldn't keep business going and went to work for a local hospital.

Reply

AHM

6:34 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Running a service business you really have to be ruthless if you are going to make money. I could not do that no matter how much I tried. Once I find someone really didn't have the money I went way too easy on them. I just don't have it to do that to people. Plenty do. One group of women who sort of have a club or whatever you want to call it all come from battered or problem marriages to keep this short. I got to work for many of them as my name got around the group and it is a shame what was done to them from contractors. I had to undo their work and do it right for almost nothing because they took all their money. At the end of the day I can at least sleep at night. Bad part of the Money Pit is some of it is so true.

Reply

SomervilleGirl

8:28 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

AHM,

This story may interest you, google Hard Times in Chicago by Peter Dizikes. There is a slide show as well which is part of the article, on a new book "recounts the painful aftermath when steel plants suddenly closed in the American heartland". These issues we face today with regard to new development is directly tied to stories such as this one.

You're a good man to help people out. It's rare to find these days.

Reply
Comment_arrow

AHM

4:27 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

I think it was meant to be. I had started out wanting to be a mninister but found out I was not cut out for that. So I think this is my own way of helping out and doing what I was intended to do. Okay, will check it out.

Leave a comment